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Fibbing about number of Delphi developers
When you tell the truth about the number of users, you get correct valuations on prices in that product's Ecosystem. In the iOS world, you get very inexpensive Apps that cost a dollar or two dollars each. That is because more than a million users would buy products and services. One App can return a million dollars over it's lifetime and fuel new development.
Component Fraud
With Delphi, you have lies, damn lies and gross distortions marketed as truths. For what reason is Delphi add-ons and tools so expensive for when in OSX these things are mostly open-source (BSD, MPL) or priced lowly? For example, why Nevrona Reports full-source code version priced US$349 for? Instead of having excellent support, well-designed Report Writer, it gets tossed out the window as a useless, hopeless and totally buggy report-writer solution. Same goes for IntraWeb with almost 0% of the world using it.
The logic goes, if Nevrona Reports costs US$349 (new license) and 10% of 2 million developers buys it, Mr. Jim Gunkel would have been a multi-millionaire overnight. With all that money, he could become the next Reporting PowerHouse or Reporting Expert ready to topple Crystal Reports. Or maybe the reality is nobody buys it and this 2 million Delphi developer is a sham number cooked-up by marketing to make things nice and rosy while Delphi developers are being lied to?
Same goes for Embarcadero too. If you believe that there are 2 million developers, they should have more than enough money to hire plenty of developers or maybe there are actually 21 people working on Delphi and what is the logic for 1/3 of them being laid-off?
The Lua Fund Raiser Examined
What happens when you base things off false and misleading information? The first thing you have Amazone Affiliate scheme, donation for links to other sites, a donation fund-raiser on Mr. Stuart's website.
Mr. Stuart says:
Why should I pay to integrate with freeware? There's even wxWidget with Lua and QT bindings with Lua which does not depend on Delphi. The Lua C++ bindings are free. Only in Delphi are there Robber Baron developers who want to charge money for their integrations.
Mr. Stuart says:
Mr. Stuart, why don't you get a proper job and stop getting jerked around with this Delphi delusion. If there were 2 million Delphi developers, there would be plenty of jobs in your local area. The whole newspaper jobs section (The Times, Guardian) is full of C# and Java jobs but almost none for Delphi jobs.
Delphi Lovers Unite!
Delphi Lovers who love and dote Delphi should now start to pump money into Mr. Simon Stuart fund raiser. If there are truly 2 million Delphi developers and 10% of them contribute £100.00, that would mean Mr. Simon Stuart could raise a cool £20,000,000.00 overnight. The sad reality is less than 0.0005% of that is raised so far.
This is a Clarion call for Delphi Lovers to unite together and give Mr. Simon Stuart the £20,000,000.00 he needs. Remember, this is a non-tax deductible deduction and Mr. Simon Stuart's company is not a UK registered charity.
Updates:
The original article said £2,000,000. This was erroneous.
10% of 2 million developers means 200,000 developers x £100 = £20,000,000.00
The original article had no decimal places. Decimal places are added to the numbers.
Fibbing about number of Delphi developers
When you tell the truth about the number of users, you get correct valuations on prices in that product's Ecosystem. In the iOS world, you get very inexpensive Apps that cost a dollar or two dollars each. That is because more than a million users would buy products and services. One App can return a million dollars over it's lifetime and fuel new development.
Component Fraud
With Delphi, you have lies, damn lies and gross distortions marketed as truths. For what reason is Delphi add-ons and tools so expensive for when in OSX these things are mostly open-source (BSD, MPL) or priced lowly? For example, why Nevrona Reports full-source code version priced US$349 for? Instead of having excellent support, well-designed Report Writer, it gets tossed out the window as a useless, hopeless and totally buggy report-writer solution. Same goes for IntraWeb with almost 0% of the world using it.
The logic goes, if Nevrona Reports costs US$349 (new license) and 10% of 2 million developers buys it, Mr. Jim Gunkel would have been a multi-millionaire overnight. With all that money, he could become the next Reporting PowerHouse or Reporting Expert ready to topple Crystal Reports. Or maybe the reality is nobody buys it and this 2 million Delphi developer is a sham number cooked-up by marketing to make things nice and rosy while Delphi developers are being lied to?
Same goes for Embarcadero too. If you believe that there are 2 million developers, they should have more than enough money to hire plenty of developers or maybe there are actually 21 people working on Delphi and what is the logic for 1/3 of them being laid-off?
The Lua Fund Raiser Examined
What happens when you base things off false and misleading information? The first thing you have Amazone Affiliate scheme, donation for links to other sites, a donation fund-raiser on Mr. Stuart's website.
Mr. Stuart says:
"I have personally invested more than £6000 of my own money… with thus far not a penny to show for it."When you do open-source for other communities, like NET or Java, the base-products are usually affordable or cheap or free. (e.g., PHP is free, Java is free). For Delphi, there is this crippled version of Delphi which requires payment if revenues exceed US$1000. If you want to use Delphi with all the features, you have to pay US$800 +10% (or Euros 800 + 25% tax) and annual upgrades out of your own pocket.
Why should I pay to integrate with freeware? There's even wxWidget with Lua and QT bindings with Lua which does not depend on Delphi. The Lua C++ bindings are free. Only in Delphi are there Robber Baron developers who want to charge money for their integrations.
Mr. Stuart says:
As you may already know, I run my own company… and (for the moment) my company’s soul source of revenue is development contracts. The problem I now face is that, in the current economic climate, there simply isn’t enough work to pay the bills, let alone provide the luxury of time required to complete Lua4Delphi (or many of my other projects, for that matter).
Mr. Stuart, why don't you get a proper job and stop getting jerked around with this Delphi delusion. If there were 2 million Delphi developers, there would be plenty of jobs in your local area. The whole newspaper jobs section (The Times, Guardian) is full of C# and Java jobs but almost none for Delphi jobs.
Delphi Lovers Unite!
Delphi Lovers who love and dote Delphi should now start to pump money into Mr. Simon Stuart fund raiser. If there are truly 2 million Delphi developers and 10% of them contribute £100.00, that would mean Mr. Simon Stuart could raise a cool £20,000,000.00 overnight. The sad reality is less than 0.0005% of that is raised so far.
This is a Clarion call for Delphi Lovers to unite together and give Mr. Simon Stuart the £20,000,000.00 he needs. Remember, this is a non-tax deductible deduction and Mr. Simon Stuart's company is not a UK registered charity.
Updates:
The original article said £2,000,000. This was erroneous.
10% of 2 million developers means 200,000 developers x £100 = £20,000,000.00
The original article had no decimal places. Decimal places are added to the numbers.
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No It's already 1552 Pound. You see it on the right side. The 50 Pound are from the very first entries.
It's not Fraud. It would we fraud then if someone is not about to do what is said, the outcome for the user can be a similar one.
Mr. Simon Stewart is open in this case ... very likely knowing that this honest words will lead to less donations ... He simply said, guys it will not come alive in a different way.
Let me say it different ...
The geek is the one who implements ... The question is, do you buy from a geek.
What is your opinion then about companies that sold life time free upgrades? Customer who compared first and then decided have been told afterwards you have not understood correctly.
The only exception is a company from Scotland providing a version control system. They are the only from these days who kept the promise.
Compared against the UK consultancy firms with > 2000 so called consultants, that ship to mid European sites people who are simply not consultants. Hellgate London for either the one who cannot do the work or the customer.
'If there are truly 2 million Delphi developers and 10% of them contribute £100, that would mean Mr. Simon Stuart could raise a cool £2,000,000 overnight.'
10% of 2 million is 200.000. Times 100 pound = 20.000.000
Again, you spent to much time on one record because you can not find anything else, Delphi is in the rise, obviously!
Why, because new stuff is added, world tour is going on etc. real attention maker. This kind of re-energizes the community. After a couple of months people will again start to focus on whats missing. (what a shame)
Whatever, you don't believe 2 million Delphi users exists, ok! Here is real mind bugle for you:
Over 30 million Developers world wide - True or False?
Only 500 Tousand Developers world wide - True or False?
Both statements are correct when True and both statement are correct when False.
It is the way you interpret Numbers that are connected to observers. If Embarcadero officially claims that they have 2 million Delphi users now the only thing you can do is believe them because you don't know how they observe it.
Trying to prove that 30 million developers don't exist would be the same, you will never succeed, because in my observation I count over 30 million Developers world wide.
My point is: stop trying to prove the numbers are incorrect, try proving that the rest of what your number is not using Delphi.
Have a nice day gents.
Mr. Hater UK ... the minimum donation is GBP 10 ... there is no need to correct.
++Technologies
Wondering why EMB sent a pale rider...
Agreed no one can count the 2 Mios.
But there are good numbers, assuming the number communicated are correct.
Can be found on Wikipedia and the some information about the last year EMBT was listed at the stock exchange a quarterly report close to the year 2006 and some down to Y2k. There are trends (shows an expanding but continuous evolving business.
Assuming 2008 to 2010 have been hard years ... Assuming sales is constant maybe little growth that compensate the (effect given via the additional influencing facts listed below) - unrealistic but let us assume this increases the number of license holders.
Delphi:
I must be about let me say 27 Mio USD max 35 in 2009. (Price of Codegear purchase - 'must' be related to a certain revenue assuming one year). - Assuming DB tools increased too.
Assuming a Delphi developer just updating every third year would lead to 600k customers updating, just assuming a Prof Update for for 500USD would lead to 300Mio USD revenue. - false
Now include facts, new customers, Radstudio, Enterprise other well paid support contracts.
Anything from these arguments added reduces the number of developers
The increase has not been a high number of XX% it closer to 10%. During the last 3 years a good job anyway.
Assuming the growth factor in money can be eliminated via the additional arguments. (as mentioned above)
The dimension paying customer that upgrades Prof (assuming growth is eliminated but no SA and no update in the first and second year) every 3 years is about at max. about 200k (within a bandwidth) ... if they would only have Delphi Prof.
Assuming more Enterprise customers
50k to 65k a year that upgrade to prof. I assume the impact of Enterprise cannot be eliminated.
Something was irritating me first, the salary for the employees is not this high so the 15% 'margin' is was assuming was to low but in 2k this was about 33% operating margin (Silcon Investor 2k). Ok somewhere maybe little below will be the truth.
So where are 2 Mios now ... buried in the dust of the 64-bit desert? Very likely.
This is still a big business... but the developers mentioned do not represent the paying customers.
Sorry I just made a rough estimate and could make a more precise model which would lead to a different number but never to 2 Mio. QED.
It would lead to less upgrading developers.
Agree. No one knows how EMB calculates the number but what can be proved here is that it is not the number of paying. The number of paying is about 10% assuming the 2 Mio given are correct.
> From our UK foreign correspondent:
SJS,
Good luck with your Fund Raiser.
Cool, I hope your blog post drives more donors to Simon's project and Delphi in general. Keep up the good work!
"Hate is not conquered by hate. Hate is conquered by love. This is eternal law." - Gautama Buddha
>> From our UK foreign correspondent:
> Keep up the good work!
That is exactly what this blog does.
It drives people angry that they WILL want to donate.
> Keep up the good work!
Keep on Going!
I would like to go beyond
'Keep up the awesome work.'
Hope this fit's too. Heard this last time when I was granted the 'Pick of The Litter' medal to honor 20 games won in WildOnes.
Well Done! The Delphihater is the Delphi world's 'Pick of The Litter' - He 'won' so many games.
Ok, my next medal is ...
'Suicidal Mayhem' for taking the most damage in the games ...
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